SMCSO UPDATE – Police Continue To Investigate Serious Collision In Chaptico
MECHANICSVILLE, Md. – On December 9, 2022 at approximately 12:30 p.m., police, fire and rescue personnel responded to a serious motor vehicle accident on Budds Creek Road in the area of Mechanicsville Road.
Crews arrived and found a tow truck overturned and two other vehicles involved with three occupants reportedly trapped with injuries. Upon arrival a MEDEVAC was pre-launched for at least one patient. Firefighters established a landing zone in the area of Chaptico Park.
Firefighters extricated all three patients and turned over to EMS for care.
A second MEDEVAC was requested for a second patient. EMS has evaluated a total of four patients with injuries.
Maryland State Police Trooper 7 quickly arrived to the landing site and Maryland State Police Trooper 2 is responding from Joint Base Andrews. Flight medics with MSP Trooper 7 were transported to the scene to assist with care of the patients.
MSP Trooper 2 arrived to the landing site by 1: 05 p.m.
The Hollywood Volunteer Fire Department was requested to Mechanicsville Volunteer Fire Department to supply coverage to the area for additional incidents. Hollywood VFD returned around 1:30 p.m.
MSP Trooper 7 was able to transport both patients for flyout to Capital Region Trauma Center and MSP Trooper 2 returned to Joint Andrews Base.
Two patients were transported by ambulance to Capital Region Trauma Center for treatment.
MDOT SHA arrived on the scene to remove a fallen tree in the roadway.
DOT and MSP arrived on the scene to conduct an accident investigation.
SMECO was also requested to the scene. Expect traffic delays in the area with the road closed for an extended period of time.
We will continue to provide updates as they become available.
Contact our news desk at news@thebaynet.com
Speed cameras, speed cameras, speed cameras, that road is wayyyy to dangerous
Wrong. The road is fine, just the idiots on them.
Hence why speed cameras are needed, that’s the only thing that’s going to help
Speed cameras are for idiots, not too bright huh?
Do your research before you think speed cameras are worth it. Maintenance costs and causing more problems in the road because everyone knows where they are. Not too bright, huh?
Use common sense before responding, facts are facts
Speed cameras reduce traffic speed to acceptable levels, speed cameras are basically maintenance free, and who cares if everyone knows where they are? It’ll force them to stop driving like maniacs or they can open up them wallets
If you are against speed cameras you are a part of the problem
Not too bright are ya?
https://www.cdc.gov/transportationsafety/calculator/factsheet/speed.html
Not that you’ll take the time to read this but facts are facts
Also speed cameras do not require any major repairs or maintenance for 7-10 years, on a roadway such as budds creek road where people travel at speeds of 70-90 mph installing cameras would pay for themselves 10 times over
Not too bright huh? You have a nice day
Wrong. it’s people driving that room and I know speed is a factor
Exactly!!
Speed cameras are completely ineffective. For one, they only reduce speed at the location of the camera only, because everyone knows where they are. Second, the fine is against the vehicle not the driver. Patrols, patrols, patrols. Catch the speeders, fine them, if the speed is excessive enough, jail them, impound their vehicle and suspend their license.
Please see the attached cdc confirmation for the facts provided
I did read the attachment. As usual, it doesn’t say what you represent. The study say the speed or speeding was reduced “when the cameras were present”. Budds Creek Rd is 19 miles long. The cameras cannot be present along all 19 miles. They will be effective only where they are located and have no impact where they are not.
Thank you for confirmation that you refuse the facts as usual and that you are part of the problem
Speed camera can be placed along the entire stretch of the road, do research before making a dumb comment like that
Look around the dc/metro area, there are roads that have them posted every 1/4 mile in areas
You have been debunked again
This was the third major collision in Saint Mary’s within 24 hours. That’s not a coincidence. The aggressive driving here is rampant; speeding, tail gating, running stop signs and red lights, weaving in and out of traffic. I don’t think many people will become safer drivers because it’s the right thing to do. There needs to be something to get their attention and when their pocket books are hit, I think their heats and minds will follow. The carnage and damage need to stop. It’s interesting that our county leaders don’t seem to want to put measures in place to make it better. Even when a county commissioner’s wife was struck broadside by a red light runner, they refused to put up re light cameras. I believe speeding is basically exceeding the posted limit by 10 MPH or more. Reckless driving kicks in, I believe at 20 MPH over the posted limit. If speed cameras were put up at key locations and violators were given a significant fine, it could make a difference.
Not all accidents are due to speeding. Most likely the reports will cite speeding as a factor but if you’re doing 1 mph over the speed limit then your speeding and I don’t think you’re referring to that. Those cameras you’re talking about would lead towards more accidents and maintenance costs. Im more frustrated by people not paying attention while driving which is evident by the last minute lane changes, people sitting at a light well after it turns green, weaving between lines and the “slinky effect” because they don’t use cruise control. I agree the commissioners need to allocate more funding to the Sherriff’s department so they have the resources they need to patrol the roads like they used to, but we don’t need them directing SHA to install stop signs on a road that doesn’t warrant (like Dr Johnson Rd) them either. At the end of the day, St. Mary’s county is growing and there is very little we can do to stop the aggressive driving and bad habits of others but we can look in the mirror and control our own emotions and perhaps avoid some of the unnecessary raging that I see around here.
Very well put. I disagree with your stance on speed cameras but agree with you otherwise. I personally see speed cameras as a static replacement for one type of traffic enforcement when those resources would be better served elsewhere. As an outsider looking in, it feels like the St. Mary’s County Sheriff’s Department is stretched thin. I rarely see patrols, and when I do, I have no idea what they’re doing. I witness numerous traffic violations around me, even when there’s a cop nearby, and they do nothing. Yet I’ve been pulled over for having a cracked windshield that a cop can somehow see while I’m driving. I feel like they’re interested in targeting poor or “suspicious” people and not those blatantly and dangerously violating traffic laws. I’ve driven in places with a lot of cameras, and drivers in general are a lot more “buttoned up.” Traffic flow in St. Mary’s County in general is extremely chaotic, but as you said, speed is only a factor in that. But I think tackling that one factor automatically, while using human resources to address others, might be a good move. But ultimately, I agree that the issue isn’t the roads or the cops or anything else. It’s the people, and it’s on us to remind ourselves every day that we’re piloting a potentially deadly pile of steel. We’re not invincible, as easy as it is to feel that way sometimes.
Spot on, all roadways should have speed cameras every 1/2 mile, all intersections need red light cameras
Ye Olde Budds Creek Speedway… it’s only been like this FOREVER 🙄🙄🙄
I drive through this area frequently, not sure how this happened, drugs, alcohol, cell phone, or a combination of all the them…
Whoever is guilty needs some serious charges & throw the book at the loser, unbelievable, unnecessary, unwarranted damage to life, limb & property…
Attempted murder shouldn’t be out of the question.. Sickening.
For years that location have seen multiple deaths and injuries
Do they have a County Government?
When a “Prominent “ politician or family member die then they will find a solution, speed cameras help but the solution goes beyond that
PLEASE STOP suggesting that the government put more speed & red light cameras in our lives! I’m sick & tired of paying for incompetent idiots who won’t drive safely! It’s bad enough that they’re increasing MY insurance premiums, so punish them, not me!
They need to investigate the cause of this type of major crash and, barring a medical issue, remove that driver from our roads for an extended period of time! If they cause incapacitating injuries (or worse), the at fault driver gets a $5,000 fine, loss of license for 6 months and probation for 3 years. Not too extreme but it can’t be too lenient either.
I hate how you libs immediately run to the government for a solution! Haven’t you learned anything yet you big dummies??!!!
If you know so much then what’s going to fix it Einstein? Police are government employees so according to you we can’t ask them for help
So yes speed cameras are the only answer, if you disagree then you’re part of the problem
“Anonymous says: December 10, 2022 at 5:55 pm Use common sense before responding, facts are facts Speed cameras reduce traffic speed to acceptable levels, speed cameras are basically maintenance free, and who cares if everyone knows where they are? It’ll force them to stop driving like maniacs or they can open up them wallets If you are against speed cameras you are a part of the problem Not too bright are ya?” Follow your own advice and use some common sense. Speed cameras are only effective at the location. Go take a drive up and down Indian Head Hwy if you don’t understand this.
Please see the attached link from the cdc, speed cameras are very effective in reducing automotive accidents, if you disagree you are part of the problem
The link does not say that. Nor does the study that is referenced in the article.
If you would take time to read the comments regarding this on past posts you would see that speed cameras are needed every 1/2 mile, doing nothing will only result in more accidents
Oh so now you agree that it does matter where and how often the cameras are placed? Above you said “who cares if everyone knows where they are placed”. Make up your mind.
Thank you for confirmation that you refuse facts and that you’re part of the problem, as usual you are debunked
Please learn to read
Who cares if the know where they are? Think about that for a minute and try to keep up I know that’s hard
If they don’t know where they are at they will receive fines
If they know where they are at they will slow down
Here’s another fact, you are part of the problem of speeding, reckless driving in Maryland because you’re against them being put up
You are dismissed
You are kidding right? You are admonishing ME to learn how to read?!?!?! Here is your quote from your post: “Speed cameras reduce traffic speed to acceptable levels, speed cameras are basically maintenance free, and who cares if everyone knows where they are?” You conveniently forgot the word “everyone” in your reply.
You are part of the problem. I can tell you’re one of the raging drivers on the road that thinks you’re a cop. I don’t need to hear an explanation from you as your posts indicate you only operate in absolutes. You’re dismissed.
The link does not say that. Nor does the study that is referenced in the article.
That’s because you didn’t read the article
Automated speed camera enforcement is effective in reducing speed and speed-related crashes. In a Cochrane review of studies through 2010 evaluating speed cameras, all studies measuring speed or speeding saw reductions when the cameras were present.6 All studies in the Cochrane review measuring crashes also showed reductions when the cameras were present.6 More recent research has also found reductions in speeding or injury crashes when cameras were present.7,8 For example, a 2016 study reported on the results of a comprehensive evaluation of an automated speed camera enforcement program in Montgomery County, Maryland.8 The evaluation was conducted seven and a half years after the introduction of the speed cameras to residential streets and school zones. Relative to comparable sites without cameras, sites with cameras saw a decrease in mean speeds, a decrease in the likelihood that a driver was driving at more than ten miles per hour above the speed limit, and a reduction in the likelihood of a crash resulting in an incapacitating or fatal injury.8 In a phone survey of drivers in the community, 95% were aware of the speed cameras, and 76% of those aware had reduced their speeds because of the cameras.
Right from the page itself
Facts are facts
You are dismissed
I knew you would use that. Just shows you can’t read. You stated that “speed cameras are very effective in reducing automotive accidents”. The portion you copied and pasted gives no stats and only offers “a reduction in the likelihood of a crash”, not your “very effective”. Go read the study in footnote #8. The one that is referenced in the paragraph you copied and pasted. You won’t of course.
Facts are facts, you’ve refused them as always
Have a nice day
Guess your opinion is the only one that counts huh? Well let’s get them installed. Then let’s use automotive GPS data to issue tickets. We can also use the cameras on the phones planted to everyone’s windscreen to get images of the offenders……Keep letting them in boys.
Speed and Stop cameras are the answer. Hit these people where it counts.
Father God, I pray you release ministering angels to all of Maryland’s people to bring about a kinder, gentler, a more attentive spirit in all humans alike, in Jesus’ name… amen. I also ask for healings for all involved in this tragedy, in Jesus’ name … amen & Thank you Lord
My heart goes out to everyone that has been affected by this horrible accident.
Anyone know n e thing about accident on mevh rd
Anyone care to share the name of road in the DC area that has speed cameras placed every 1/4 mile for 19 miles? I’m interested to know where this is.
Ok here you go AGAIN not reading, I never said any roadway had them for 19 miles
Now for the 1/4 mile comment, get out from mommy’s basement and tell her to drive you down Marlboro pike in forestville and let me know how many speeding tickets you receive
That’s one example, would you like more?
I know you didn’t say anything about any roadway having them for 19 miles. When I said a jurisdication can’t put cameras on a 19 mile roadway…you said “Speed camera can be placed along the entire stretch of the road, do research before making a dumb comment like that Look around the dc/metro area, there are roads that have them posted every 1/4 mile in areas” I am asking to you provide proof of a road that has cameras every 1/4 mile for 19 miles. I am still asking because you have not done so.
“Anonymous says: December 13, 2022 at 9:18 am Facts are facts, you’ve refused them as always Have a nice day” You are right facts are facts. But you have not presented facts. You have misrepresented your opinion and vague wording in the report about speeding on residential streets in school zones as factual evidence of speeding on highways. The actual study listed as a reference to the article provides actual facts about residential streets and they do not jive with your opinion. How could they? You didn’t actually read the study.
“Anonymous says:December 12, 2022 at 7:36 pm You are part of the problem. I can tell you’re one of the raging drivers on the road that thinks you’re a cop. I don’t need to hear an explanation from you as your posts indicate you only operate in absolutes. You’re dismissed.” Just so we are clear. I am not speaking in absolutes. I am using your own words to debunk your replies. It isn’t difficult. In fact you make it easy.
Provide the facts that show
1. Speed cameras don’t work
2. Speed cameras cannot be installed on public roadways
3. Speed cameras don’t reduce accidents
4. Don’t force drivers to slow down
You refuse the facts I provide so I’m waiting for yours to prove me wrong, so let’s see it, at least try come on
You’ve provided facts? You’ve provided an article about speed cameras on residential streets and in school zones. A very limited application that has no correlation to a high speed open road that is 19 miles long. You clearly did not read any of the underlying data from the referenced studies in the link you posted. You even overstated the arbitrary wording about camera effectiveness that YOU copied and pasted from the link you provided. You provided opinions, not facts, about how often speed cameras can be placed on a open high speed roadway that is 19 miles long. When asked to name a 19 mile long road in the area that has cameras placed every quarter mile as you contend there are, you can’t. You reference maintenance costs but not set up costs. You’ve contradicted your statement about the impact of driver knowledge of camera location. That about covers your “facts”.
Provide the facts that show
1. Speed cameras don’t work
2. Speed cameras cannot be installed on public roadways
3. Speed cameras don’t reduce accidents
4. Don’t force drivers to slow down
You refuse the facts I provide so I’m waiting for yours to prove me wrong, so let’s see it, at least try come on
You’ve failed to deflect the topic away from you inability to produce facts that are relevant to the subject and to your own contradictory statements. It is clear that you didn’t fully read and understand the study you linked. It is clear that you don’t understand that the lack of relevance of residential and school zone enforcement methods vs those of a high speed long distance road.
So you cannot provide facts that prove me wrong, that’s what I thought
You also keep mentioning for some unknown reasons to give an example of a road that has cameras every 1/4 mile for 19 miles
Those are YOUR words for 19 miles not mine
I did provide you with an example above of a roadway that has them every 1/8-1/4 of a mile you refused that fact as well
I’m still waiting for your facts for what was asked before
Thank you for confirming that you don’t understand the topics you brought up and for once again contradicting your own statements. Now speed cameras an a 1/8 of a mile apart on that road? Before they were a 1/4 mile apart on the same road…before that stated your opinion that they were only needed 1/2 mile apart. So why would a jurisdiction put them 1/4, 1/8 or every 5 inches from one another? You are so much fun to play with!!!
Provide the facts that show
1. Speed cameras don’t work
2. Speed cameras cannot be installed on public roadways
3. Speed cameras don’t reduce accidents
4. Don’t force drivers to slow down
You refuse the facts I provide so I’m waiting for yours to prove me wrong, so let’s see it, at least try come on
So in other words after all the nonsense you posted we can agree that you cannot prove me wrong
Exactly what I thought
Case
Closed
You tried mightily to change the subject from the irrelevance of the link you posted as it relates to Rt 234. You’ve tried mightily to deflect the topic from your confusion about what are facts and what are your opinions. You’ve tried mightily to deflect attention away from your contradictions and errors of omission. You’ve tried mightily and failed miserably.
Provide the facts that show
1. Speed cameras don’t work
2. Speed cameras cannot be installed on public roadways
3. Speed cameras don’t reduce accidents
4. Don’t force drivers to slow down
What is astonishing to me is why you’re so worried about speed cameras in the first place? Your mommy drives you around anyway so why are you worried about it?
I know you can’t answer any questions I ask but give it a try
There you go contradicting yourself again. For the majority of this thread you claimed I was a road rager….now you claim my mommy drives me around!! Priceless.
Provide the facts that show
1. Speed cameras don’t work
2. Speed cameras cannot be installed on public roadways
3. Speed cameras don’t reduce accidents
4. Don’t force drivers to slow down